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Saul Asked What Wrong the Amalekite Children Had Done

Before attacking Amalek, Saul asked God what wrong the children had done. A voice answered: do not be overjust. He ignored the warning and it destroyed him.

Curated by Arthur · Told by Maggid ·
Table of Contents
  1. The Command and the Question
  2. The Voice That Said Do Not Be Overjust
  3. What Saul Actually Did
  4. The Asymmetry of Mercy

The Command and the Question

The command came through Samuel: destroy Amalek entirely. Every man, woman, child, and animal. Leave nothing alive. The tradition behind the command was old, going back to the ambush at Rephidim when Amalek had attacked the weakest Israelites trailing at the back of the column as they came out of Egypt, striking at those who could not defend themselves and had no strength left. The debt had been accumulating for generations. Samuel told Saul that God had sent him to collect it.

Saul prepared the army. Then he asked a question.

The tradition records it precisely: if the Torah demands atonement even for a single life, what atonement is sufficient for the slaughter of this many? And what wrong have their cattle done? What have the children done?

The Voice That Said Do Not Be Overjust

A heavenly voice responded. Three words: be not overjust. Not a refutation of Saul's reasoning. Not a defense of the command's morality. A caution against a specific category of error: the excess of righteousness applied in the wrong direction at the wrong moment.

The tradition understood this warning as a precise diagnosis. Saul's mercy was real. The question about the children was sincere. But sincerity and righteousness pointed in a particular direction are not the same thing as wisdom. A man who cannot execute an enemy because he is thinking about the enemy's children is not simply compassionate. He is also allowing his moral instinct to override a command issued through a channel he had accepted as authoritative.

The tradition noted, without pleasure, what this kind of misapplied mercy tends to produce: the person who cannot be cruel to an enemy often ends up being cruel to an ally. Saul, who could not bring himself to kill Amalekite children, had no difficulty later turning against the priests of Nob.

What Saul Actually Did

He attacked Amalek. He defeated them. He killed the people, men and women and children, through the campaign. But he kept Agag, the king, alive. And he kept the best animals, the fat cattle and the choice sheep, alive. The official explanation offered to Samuel afterward was that the people had wanted to bring the animals as offerings to God at Gilgal, and that Agag was too valuable a prisoner to simply kill.

Samuel asked him: why do I hear the sound of sheep and cattle? Saul said: the people brought them. Samuel cut through the evasion: when you were small in your own eyes, you were made the head of the tribes of Israel. Now you have rejected the word of God.

That day, the kingship began to leave Saul.

The Asymmetry of Mercy

The tradition's commentary on Saul's failure is not that he was a bad man. The tradition is clear that he was not. He was a good man who applied his goodness in a way that violated the structure of the command he had been given, and then constructed a justification that had just enough truth in it to be convincing to himself. The animals were for offerings. That was probably true of some of them. The justification was probably half-genuine even as it was entirely inadequate.

What the tradition found instructive about Saul's case was precisely that he was good. The danger was not that Saul was evil. It was something more difficult: he let the excess of one virtue crowd out the obedience that the moment required. A king of Israel was not simply a man of good instincts. He was a man whose instincts had to operate within a structure of covenantal obligation that his personal moral reasoning could not override.


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Legends of the Jews 3:27Legends of the Jews

Legends of the Jews turns to Saul Questions the Morality of Slaughtering Amalek.

It's a powerful moment, isn’t it? This internal struggle, this moral wrestling, reveals a human side to Saul, a king confronting the weight of his responsibilities and the dictates of a higher power. A heavenly voice then proclaims, "Be not overjust." It's a fascinating interjection, a divine caution against excessive righteousness.

Later, the narrative introduces Doeg, a figure who will become a dark presence in Saul's life. It is Doeg who convinces Saul to spare Agag, the king of the Amalekites. His argument hinges on a interpretation of Jewish law (halakha): the prohibition against slaughtering an animal and its young on the same day. Doeg argues, if this is the law, how much more forbidden is it to destroy old and young, men and children at once?

This argument resonates with Saul, who, according to the Legends of the Jews (Ginzberg), only undertook the war reluctantly, feeling forced into it. He readily allows his people to keep some of the cattle alive. It wasn't out of personal greed, though. The text emphasizes Saul's wealth. He was so affluent, in fact, that he took a census by giving a sheep to each of his soldiers, distributing no less than two hundred thousand sheep!

But the sparing of Agag, and the retention of the livestock, becomes a critical moment of disobedience, one that ultimately leads to Saul's downfall. As we find in Midrash Rabbah, even when faced with divine commands, the human heart often seeks a path of compassion, even if it means deviating from the strict letter of the law.

This episode raises enduring questions. When does justice become excessive? Where do we draw the line between obedience and moral responsibility? And what happens when our own sense of right and wrong conflicts with what we perceive as divine will? It seems Saul's story is not just an ancient legend, but a timeless exploration of the complexities of faith, power, and the human condition.

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Shemot Rabbah 14:2Shemot Rabbah

"Moses extended his hand toward the heavens, and there was a thick darkness in the entire land of Egypt for three days. They did not see one another, and no one rose from his place for three days; but for all the children of Israel there was light in their dwellings" (Exodus 10:22-23). But where did this darkness come from? That's the question that the ancient rabbis confront in Shemot Rabbah, a rich collection of Midrashic (rabbinic interpretive commentary) interpretations on the Book of Exodus.

This teaching presents us with a fascinating debate between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Nehemya. Rabbi Yehuda suggests the darkness came "from the heavenly darkness," citing (Psalm 18:12): "He made darkness His secret place, His pavilion around Him."

Rabbi Nehemya, on the other hand, offers a much more chilling explanation. He proposes the darkness originated from Gehenna, often translated as Hell. He points to (Job 10:22), "A land of darkness, like blackness, the shadow of death and disorder, [where the light is like darkness]." Woe to a house whose windows open into that darkness!

This idea of Gehenna as the source of the darkness is further explored. The text quotes (Ezekiel 31:15), "On the day he descended to the grave I caused the deep to mourn [he’evalti], and cover itself for him." The rabbis cleverly interpret he’evalti as hovalti, meaning "I led him into the depths." It's a subtle, but powerful shift in meaning.

Rabbi Yehuda bar Rabbi asks a haunting question: With what are the wicked covered in Gehenna? His answer? Darkness. Ḥizkiyya adds an earthy analogy: how do you cover a clay tub? With another piece of earthenware. It's the same substance. Similarly, the wicked, whose deeds are done in darkness, are covered in darkness. (Isaiah 29:15) says it plainly: "Their deeds are in the dark." Thus, God covers them with the dark depths, as we see echoed in (Genesis 1:2): "And darkness on the surface of the depths."

So, could this mean that the darkness that plagued Egypt wasn't just a natural phenomenon, but a manifestation of the darkness of Gehenna itself? The text leaves us pondering this possibility.

It's a powerful image, isn't it? The idea that the darkness visited upon Egypt was not merely a physical absence of light, but a tangible emanation of spiritual and moral darkness. It serves as a potent reminder of the consequences of our actions and the depths to which we can sink if we choose to dwell in the shadows. Could it be that the plagues weren't just punishments, but also warnings, glimpses into the potential consequences of choosing darkness over light? Maybe the story of the plague of darkness is a mirror reflecting our own choices, asking us: what kind of light are we choosing to bring into the world?

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Tanya, Likkutei Amarim, Chapter 20Tanya (Likkutei Amarim)

The Tanya's twentieth chapter asks a question with a startling answer: why will even the most secular, disconnected Jew choose death rather than worship an idol?

This is not theoretical. Rabbi Schneur Zalman points to historical reality. Throughout the centuries, Jews with no visible connection to Torah, people who violated Shabbat, ate forbidden food, lived entirely secular lives, chose martyrdom when faced with forced conversion. They could have bowed to the idol and secretly remained Jewish. They could have reasoned that life is more important than a symbolic gesture. Instead, they died.

Why? The Tanya says: because idolatry strikes at the root of the soul in a way that no other sin does. The first two commandments of the Decalogue, "I am the Lord your God" (Exodus 20:2) and "You shall have no other gods" (Exodus 20:3), contain within them the entire Torah. Every positive commandment flows from "I am." Every prohibition flows from "You shall not have." Idolatry is not one sin among many. It is the negation of everything.

At the moment of the test, when a Jew is told to bow to an idol or die, the hidden love buried deep in the soul erupts through every layer of concealment. The divine light clothed in the faculty of chochmah, inherited from the Patriarchs, transcends time and logic. It does not arrive through rational argument. It simply overrides every other consideration.

The Tanya then makes a breathtaking logical move. If a Jew will die rather than commit idolatry, and if every sin is a form of separation from God's unity, then the same force that drives martyrdom should also drive daily observance. The difference is only one of intensity. Idolatry calls forth the soul's deepest reserves. A minor transgression should, logically, call forth the same refusal to separate from God, even if the stakes are lower.

This is the hidden love in action. It does not need to be felt. It does not need to be understood. It sits beneath consciousness, silent and immovable, and when the moment demands it, it surfaces with a force that nothing in this world can overcome.

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