Rabbi Judah son of R. Elai, Rabbi Jose, and Rabbi Shimeon b. Johai discussed together with Judah b. Giri, the merits of the Romans. Rabbi Juda praised them. Rabbi Jose kept silent. Rabbi Shimeon blamed them. Juda b. Giri denounced them. In consequence R. Judah was raised to a high position. Rabbi Jose was exiled to Sepphoris and Rabbi Shimeon b. Johai had to flee for his life, and hid with his son in a cavern for thirteen years. After that his father-in-law, R. Pinehasb. Jair found him full of scars and wounds. He was restored to health.