“For the living know that they will die; but the dead do not know anything, and they no longer have a reward, as their memory is forgotten” (Ecclesiastes 9:5). “For the living know that they will die.” Rabbi Ḥiyya the Great and Rabbi Yonatan were walking before the bier of Rabbi Shimon ben Yosei ben Lakoneya, and Rabbi Yonatan’s garment14With its ritual fringes. was dragging on the coffin. Rabbi Ḥiyya the Great said to him: ‘My son, lift your garment, so they will not say: Tomorrow they are coming to us, and they are mocking us.’15The dead should not perceive Rabbi Yonatan as mocking them by allowing his ritual fringes to drape on the bier, while the dead are unable to perform mitzvot.
He said to him: ‘Rabbi, is it not written: “But the dead do not know anything”?’ He said to him: ‘My son, Bible, you know; Midrash, you do not know. “For the living know” – these are the righteous, who, even in their death, are called alive. “But the dead do not know anything” – these are the wicked, who, even in their lifetimes, are called dead. ‘From where is it derived that the righteous, even in their death, are called alive?
It is as it is stated: “To the land in whose regard I took an oath to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob, saying: [I will give it to your descendants]” (Exodus 33:1). He did not say: To the patriarchs, but rather, “to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.” He said to Moses: Go out and say to them: The oath that I took to them, I have fulfilled, as it is stated: “I will give it to your descendants.” The wicked, even in their lifetimes, are called dead, as it is written: “For I do not desire the death of the dead” (Ezekiel 18:32).
Do the dead die? Rather, these are the wicked who, even in their lifetimes, are called dead.’ [Rabbi Yonatan] said to [Rabbi Ḥiyya the Great]: ‘Blessed is he who taught me Midrash.’ [Rabbi Ḥiyya] kissed him on his head.